Wikipedia:Village pump

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Test/Test2 wikipedia and test wikidata[edit]

Is it just me that I cannot link article on both test wikipedias via the test wikidata using the web user interface, as it doesn't seems like the tool have included information of both test wikis...? C933103 (talk) 01:20, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@C933103: What pages are you trying to link from/to?   — Jeff G. ツ 19:59, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Jeff G.: Thanks, Already figured out a way to do so since previous message,see my edit history. C933103 (talk) 21:56, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@C933103: You're welcome.   — Jeff G. ツ 03:29, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

AOO-kernel[edit]

hey, I want to mount my old suse 5.1 open office kernel into village pump, what would be the best procedure? Lic., Kai 09:42, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

AOO-kernel Lic., Kai 10:03, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

auto-watchlist of a red source[edit]

How could such a auto-function get realized ? Lic., Kai 11:12, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

My Affiliation[edit]

Hello my name is Angela Jackson.Please let me know if I'm Afflicted with the site and if I need to do something to unblock what ever is stopping me from viewing my name on the web page.. Thank u..please Have a Blessed Day! Oneluv17 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 19BLESSiNGS (talkcontribs)

@19BLESSiNGS: ? —Justin (koavf)TCM 05:06, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Testing[edit]

Testing

Creating page[edit]

Which kind of page should create in this wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Md Tanbir Islam (talkcontribs)

@Md Tanbir Islam: For the most part, you don't need to create much of any content. The goal of this wiki is just to test out the newest version of software. —Justin (koavf)TCM 10:14, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

le papere[edit]

le papere sono importanti e belle e fanno Quack; se le volete bene dovete fare Quack. mi raccomando.

😔[edit]

😔

:/ —Justin (koavf)TCM 19:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

File:Alarm Clock Animation High Res.webm[edit]

Could an admin please delete that file? It's now available in Commons. Thanks, Pandakekok9 (talk) 06:14, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Minorax (talk) 06:56, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Harassment Tools team to work on generating data on testwiki[edit]

Hi y'all! As a heads up, the Anti-Harassment Tools team will work on generating a bunch of data on this wiki next week in preparation for some user tests to be done with the new Checkuser. The edits will be made from non-WMF accounts. Let me know if there are any concerns with that. @Krinkle and Amorymeltzer: Pinging you both as you are quite active on this wiki. Thanks. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 17:12, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up NKohli, will there be something distinctive about the new accounts? It might be worth giving the meta:Small Wiki Monitoring Team a note as well, in case some of it seems suspicious. Not sure anyone watches that talk page, though. ~ Amory (utc) 18:17, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Amorymeltzer: Not really. We're trying to make them as inconspicuous as possible so the data doesn't bias our users when they see it. Rest assured, it won't be disruptive in any way. I will leave a note on meta:Small Wiki Monitoring Team like you suggest. Thanks! -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 20:54, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Confirm new changes[edit]

Webpage not available The webpage at irc://irc.freenode.net/wikidata could not be loaded because:

net::ERR_UNKNOWN_URL_SCHEME

Village Dump :p

Preview?[edit]

What's the preview function supposed to do here? Doesn't work the same. Kinecaklin (talk) 10:42, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sumuis[edit]

Alexisiumus

Can I use the old fashioned wiki editing here?[edit]

Can I use the old fashioned wiki editing here? I don't want to use the newer visual editor. Am I making sense? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 20:43, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ottawahitech: You can and you are. —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:15, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Koavf, Thanks for pinging me. Yes, on this page I can use old fashioned wiki editing, but when I tried to create a user page it opened in Visual. Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 16:52, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Ottawahitech: https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ottawahitech&action=edit opens for source editing for me. —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:33, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Koavf: I am not sure why you get the legacy editor and I do not, not even through your link. I wonder if it is because of your wiki-age? Ottawahitech (talk) 20:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC) This is weird: on my user-talkpage, which turns out to be legacy, I see the following tabs on top Read / Edit source / Add topic / View history but my user page has only one tab: Create[reply]
Am I making sense Ottawahitech (talk) 20:27, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Ottawahitech: Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing: Editing mode. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:32, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank!!! That did it, I think. I chose the show me both editor tabs and now I have two tabs on my userpage. This is a great hint for a question I have been asking f for for a long time, I wish it could be shared with others. Any ideas on how to make this piece of advice more visible? Ottawahitech (talk) 20:53, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Not in particular: I think that the development team are particularly motivated for everyone to use VisualEditor. —Justin (koavf)TCM 21:26, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

spam filter will not let me through the door[edit]

I have copied over my wikiversity file and tried to paste it into User:Ottawahitech/covid but the local spam filter does not like it, even though the one at wikiverity has no problem with the exact same file. I seem to be going through this scenario every time I move my file from one wmf-site to the next, sigh...

This is the error msg I got:

Error: The text you wanted to publish was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to a blacklisted external site. The following text is what triggered our spam filter: twitter.com/search

Ottawahitech (talk) 17:05, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

While test.wp probably isn't going anywhere anytime soon, you should assume that any material here is much less stable than on (e.g.) en.wv. Material that you have there is probably safer there. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:21, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled[edit]

Hi I'm Priya — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4064:2217:37E9:CE98:8087:7354:12B9 (talkcontribs)

Hi Priya, I'm Justin. —Justin (koavf)TCM 21:42, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Priya. And I am not Priya.
Zezen (talk) 10:36, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
testing some meta tools hereby, q.v. therein Zezen (talk) 10:36, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Test[edit]

Hi! Bold Tranve (talk) 13:14, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reply! Tranve (talk) 13:14, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Score-Pluggin[edit]

Midi-Namen sind unverständlich.[edit]

Lässt sich der Name der downloadbaren Midi-Datei durch den Titel ersetzen?

If title then filename = "title" + ".mid" !?

Please check my midis[edit]

My tests locks fine, but my (old) mobile phone is not able to play or downloads midis. Can you hear not only the melody but the chords? Sounds the guitar-notations ok? Mjchael's sandbox Greetings from Germany Mjchael (talk) 13:24, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Trouble with sound,videos and downloads[edit]

sounds to me like im having same trouble as User:Mjchael . . 흋ㅎ흋[[User:darkdeath-2]]흋ㅎ흋 (talk) 13:40, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused file and copyright[edit]

I have saw that there is lots of files are unused, no license and possible copyright violation. Those files will be deleted? -- MdsShakil (talk) 13:15, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MdsShakil: Yes, if they are possible copyright violations. No, if otherwise. Which did you have in mind as copyright violations? —Justin (koavf)TCM 01:27, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Koavf i didn't create such a list but you can find at Special:UnusedFiles -- MdsShakil (talk) 05:40, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@MdsShakil: Sure, it's easy to see which ones are unused but it's not easy to see which ones you think are copyright violations. I'm not particularly motivated to delete an unused file that is as SVG black dot but I am motivated to delete copyright violations. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:02, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Best practices when using Special:Import[edit]

Special:Import has several settings to choose from. What is the best combination to ensure both copyright attribution but also not filling user's accounts here with edits they didn't make? I've been erring on the side of the second one by not choosing things like "copy all the revisions for this page" and "assign edits to local users where the named user exists locally", but wanted to double check. Example. Please ping on reply. Thanks. Novem Linguae (talk) 13:40, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Novem Linguae: Technically, what you did with that example did not preserve enough attribution. Personally, I like when my edits are propagated.   — Jeff G. ツ 14:35, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But they did make those edits. —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:33, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the feedback everyone. In the future I will import everything. If you feel it is needed, I can also delete or re-import all the stuff I already imported. Novem Linguae (talk) 09:02, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I tried importing today with all the boxes checked, and it times out after 1 minute. I imagine the child templates have too many revisions. I guess I'll have to do a less thorough import for at least some of my imports. However there is one good thing. In an importd page's history, it does say that it has been imported, and it gives a link back to the original page. Perhaps I can just add a "please see that page's history for attribution" edit summary. Novem Linguae (talk) 08:04, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Novem Linguae: I recommend a permalink for the then-current revision.   — Jeff G. ツ 08:23, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Extended confirmed[edit]

I tried to test SALTing a page today in Twinkle with a level of extendeconfirmed, and I got the API error protect-invalidlevel. Is the extendedconfirmed user group turned off on this wiki? Would it be worth filing a phab ticket to turn it on so that this wiki more closely matches enwiki? Thanks. Novem Linguae (talk) 15:29, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Novem Linguae: IIRC, there was a similar request, and the answer was something about a mirror of enwiki at Beta Cluster. However, I think you can still try filing a Phabricator task. Normally a site request requires some solid consensus, but this is a test wiki so... NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh Name me 17:54, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
For the two below, @Jeff and Justin, "...Test Wikipedia is not a community. The idea of "community consensus" is therefore meaningless." This seems to be at the discretion of sysadmins/devs. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh Name me 08:28, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what that means. —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:45, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It means deployment doesn't depend on "local community consensus" as normal. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh Name me 00:21, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support turning on an "extendeconfirmed" group here   — Jeff G. ツ 22:06, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support: we should have basically all of the newest features: that's kind of the point. —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:34, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Phab ticket created. Novem Linguae (talk) 09:36, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. With thanks to User:Juan90264 for implementing. Novem Linguae (talk) 00:50, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Block/92.40.202.0/23[edit]

Special:Block/92.40.202.0/23

Support. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:25, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Globally blocked. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:08, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Additional testwiki user rights to sync up with enwiki[edit]

I'm thinking about filing a Phab ticket for the following, to bring us more in sync with enwiki. This would help with testing user scripts. I got the idea for this from seeing a comment at en:WP:US/R, where a user had to ask for multiple user rights on a different language wiki to test something, because the user rights were not available on testwiki.

See also testwiki:Special:UserGroupRights and w:Special:ListGroupRights.

  • Reviewer
    • Change display name for "Reviewer" to "Pending changes reviewer"
    • Remove "stablesettings" right from "reviewer"
    • Add "stablesettings" right to "sysop"
    • Add rights "editsemiprotected", "autoreview", "review", "autoconfirmed" to "reviewer"
    • Make "reviewer" assignable by sysops (currently only assignable by bureaucrats)

Crossed out. FlaggedRevs is not installed, and there is a moratorium on installing it. Novem Linguae (talk) 08:55, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Patroller
    • Create "patroller" user group. This is for access to the PageTriage extension used in New Page Patrol. Currently only available to testwiki admins.
    • Display name should be "New page reviewer"
    • Should be assignable by sysop
    • Add "patrol" right to "patroller"
  • Autoreviewer
    • Display name "Autopatrolled"
    • Should be assignable by sysop
    • Add "autopatrol" right to "autoreviewer"

Note to self: Phab tag Wikimedia-Site-requests

Thoughts? OK to move forward? Thanks. Novem Linguae (talk) 07:14, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support.   — Jeff G. ツ 12:56, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pending changes extension (aka mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs)[edit]

I just noticed that pending changes isn't installed for this wiki yet. So restructuring the "reviewer" right as described above would require installing it.

I see 350 people with the "reviewer" right granted, and I am guessing these folks were granted it with the intention of using mw:Help:Patrolled edits rather than mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs. So we may want to give some additional thought and discussion to the "reviewer" part of the above proposal. I think there is an argument to not change reviewer and leave it as is to minimize disruption, although I haven't decided yet. Feel free to weigh in. Ping active bureaucrat Xaosflux. Novem Linguae (talk) 20:29, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General[edit]

So, enwiki is quite far from the "normal" when it comes to page triage/patrolling - testwiki is used by everyone from everywhere, so not sure it's a great idea to try to mirror some very specific extension settings if they are only in use on enwiki here. We prob have no need to put custom group lables in place, we get testers of all sorts of languages already. -- Xaosflux (foo/bar) talk 20:37, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I once asked at m:Tech if this extension can be enabled for a (content) wiki, and here's the answer. Also, test2wiki: already has this extension. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh Name me 01:01, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cf. m:Flagged Revisions#Enabling. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh Name me 01:07, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Great info. I will cross out the pending changes part of the above proposal since the reasons are stacking up to not do that. Novem Linguae (talk) 08:55, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Turn on DiscussionTools "subscribe" feature[edit]

mw:DiscussionTools is already installed, but one of its useful features is turned off. Being able to click a subscribe button on each h2 heading, which then gives you a notification whenever someone replies. Would be perfect for watching this village pump without having to check a testwiki watchlist. mw:Help:DiscussionTools#Topic subscriptions. Any objections to turning this on? If no objections, I will file a phab ticket. Novem Linguae (talk) 12:35, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support.   — Jeff G. ツ 12:56, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Phab ticket filed. Novem Linguae (talk) 15:23, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, this appears to be turned on, I see [subscribe] buttons now. As a quick test, can someone please reply to this message and I'll see if I get a cross-wiki notification? Thanks. Novem Linguae (talk) 08:37, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Test reply without ping.   — Jeff G. ツ 10:26, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Worked :) Will close phab ticket. Thanks all. Novem Linguae (talk) 18:11, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome, and thanks for taking the lead on this.   — Jeff G. ツ 10:40, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]